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July 21, 2005
I was thinking about Roe v Wade on the ride in today (with the whole SCOTUS nomination deal)..
then Dale over at QandO goes and posts this. I am really getting sick of the whole abortion debate. They really do need to overturn Roe, and let the states debate and duke it out. A few states would possibly outlaw them, but then you could still just cross state lines to get one if you so wanted. But at least the people would be able to decide, not the folks in black robes. It would have some real interesting effects on the make up of the parties, I would think. But I am just tired of it being an issue. Get the Feds out of it, and let the states decide. Same with gay marriage.
Posted by Crusader at July 21, 2005 02:01 PM
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Like I've said before, I'd much rather allow a gay couple to marry and commit legally to one another than allow an unmarried couple to shack up with no commitment and yet still receive benefits.
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at July 21, 2005 03:22 PM
If a state wants to do that, fine by me. But don't use the feds to enforce that on my state if we choose not to legalize it. That is my point.
Posted by: Crusader at July 21, 2005 04:00 PM
Ah, but are you moving if the majority of citizens say Mr. and Mr. Stan Smith are fine with me?
Posted by: tree hugging sister at July 21, 2005 04:02 PM
If there is another state that chose not to legalize it, yes , I suppose I would consider it, or just work to not have it legalized in my state/have dif laws enacted. But at least I would have the ability to choose, instead of judicial decision, which is what we are stuck with at this point. I prefer the citizens themselves being given the choice to vote on the matters, which hasn’t bode well for the gay issue, and has not been allowed on abortion. If it is voted on, I can at least live with the result and change it in the future. Not so cut and dry with the judges.
Posted by: Crusader at July 21, 2005 04:59 PM
Well spoken, Grasshopper! (I don't agree with you on alot, but you are always level-headed. You make me so proud...)
Posted by: tree hugging sister at July 21, 2005 05:18 PM
Aw geeze sis........
blush
Posted by: Crusader at July 21, 2005 05:28 PM
I agree. Regardless of your views on such things, there is nothing whatsoever in the Constitution about abortion or marriage; therefore laws regulating such things should be a matter for the individual states, just like the age of consent.
Posted by: NJ Sue at July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Which in our daughter's case will be something over 50...
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at July 21, 2005 10:18 PM
I doubt I could've said it better (though I'm sure I could've said it in an obscure way you laypeople wouldn't understand). ;-) This is simply a matter of federal concern. While my personal position on abortion goes back on forth, the overall attitude of the country is "pro-choice but with significant restrictions." Yet the abortion activists have whipped a lot of people into a hysterical frenzy over the subject by essentially repeating a lie, namely that overruling Roe would result in a nationwide abortion ban, which is patently ridiculous.
Posted by: Dave J at July 21, 2005 11:45 PM
Simply NOT a matter of federal concern, I meant, of course.
Posted by: Dave J at July 21, 2005 11:46 PM
Of course...
Posted by: tree hugging sister at July 22, 2005 12:29 AM
Dang lawyers, always covering both sides...
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at July 22, 2005 07:48 AM