The Coalition of the Swilling

Safe. Yeah, did you ever see "Cross of Iron"?

No...and you've made me afraid.

Yanno, I'm probably a bit older than you. I remember when AIDES was a diet chocolate... I remember when we talked about "going all the way"... anything that didn't involve that wasn't "having sex".

You see, girls were supposed to be virgins when they got married. (So were boys... but who could tell, anyway, so no-one paid attention to that, least of all the boys.) So unless it involved something that would break that all-important proof of virginity, it wasn't 'really' sex.

Nice to see that abstinence education and the 'pledge of virginity' has brought back a lovely old tradition...
/sarcasm off

Was oral sex even considered in the whole 1st base/2nd base/3rd base bit? Not that I remember. I mean, while I'm no where near as old as, say, Ken, when I was a teen in the late 70s/early 80s this stuff wasn't even on the radar, or if it was it was something beyond 'normal' sex ("If you're lucky she'll go all the way, and if you're really lucky...").

But maybe as a sheltered provincial a lot of things went over my head...

Back in those days (FY Bingley), oral sex was not in the baseball analogy. It was something the other side of "grand slam". Times change.

Mr. B, in Cross of Iron, one of James Coburn's Wehrmacht troopers forces a captured Red Army woman soldier to service him off camera. There is a scream, James runs in to the building, and there's a lot of blood on her face.

According to what the poll said, it could be called bush league these days, Ken....

You should mention that it was the one guy everybody hated. So, after Coburn saw what happened AND the faces of the Russian women standing around the writhing, unfortunate fellow, he backed out and quietly closed the door. Sheesh, what a movie.

Was her name Elorena Bobbitova?

Ivana Kutitoff.

His name was Pieter Bitoff, iirc.

Johannes Snodyck

What do they call that operation? Lopitofomy?